Universal Recovery Script
- Thread starter Bale
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zarqon
Well-known member
Hello Bale.
Feature request: completely disallow mall access (including calling mall_price()) if my_ascensions() == 0 && my_level() < 5. For new characters can_interact() returns true despite no mall access. Presently, enabling UR on a new character results in a very ugly infinite mall-searching loop every time you need restoration.
Feature request: completely disallow mall access (including calling mall_price()) if my_ascensions() == 0 && my_level() < 5. For new characters can_interact() returns true despite no mall access. Presently, enabling UR on a new character results in a very ugly infinite mall-searching loop every time you need restoration.
That sounds like a mafia issue with their can_interact() implementation
zarqon
Well-known member
I side for Not a Bug, as far as can_interact() goes. You can interact, just can't shop at the Mall of Loathing. It's easy enough to work around in a script.
However, for mall_price(), it's probably a bug.
PHP:
boolean can_mall() {
if (my_ascensions() == 0 && my_level() < 5) return false;
return can_interact();
}However, for mall_price(), it's probably a bug.
Crowther
Active member
I'm a bit confused as to why expensive restoring items are used before cheaper ones. This character is level 90 and has over one thousand MMJ's in inventory. Why was a banana spritzer used at something like 120x the cost per MP? Am I using the script wrong? I don't even see banana spritzer on mafia restore list and it's certainly not checked.
Crowther
Active member
MMJ is ~100 meat and a banana spritzer is ~4K meat, so I don't see how that works out as cheaper.
Bale
Minion
That doesn't make sense to me. That's not a concern in aftercore. Additionally, the MP would not be wasted since max MP was much higher than that. Actually things are even weirder than that...
1213 starting MP + 6,867 MP (49 magical mystery juice) = 8110 MP (that's higher than the target of 8087 MP)
Why should it then do any more restoration? The banana spritzer was completely superfluous!
Having "Prefer using inventory instead of mall, regardless of value" checked would perhaps explain why a banana spritzer was chosen. I don't see why it was used after the goal was reached, though.
Universal Recovery considers all HP/MP restorers, even those not in Mafia's list. See the first post of this thread for more details.
Bale
Minion
slyz is correct. It seems likely that Crowther set the script to "Prefer using inventory instead of mall, regardless of value". If so, then this is an example of the script not being used correctly. I included that option because some people kept insisting that anything in their inventory is "free". I don't get that point of view since banana spritzers can be sold in the mall for enough meat to buy other items that will restore many times their value.
Crowther, since you consider things in your inventory to have value, you are using the script wrong and you should not enable that option.
Crowther, since you consider things in your inventory to have value, you are using the script wrong and you should not enable that option.
Theraze
Active member
If cost is 0, then the best restorative is the one that brings you closest to your goal. Another MMJ would have taken him farther over the 7 still required than the banana did. (Note that, as I pointed out above, there was still 7 mana to restore after finishing up those MMJs.)
Bale
Minion
The name of the preference is "Prefer using inventory instead of mall, regardless of value" and it really does mean regardless of value. Nobody should ever use that preference unless they really, honestly think that items in their inventory are free.
That's why I added that "feature" under protest and only after many people requested it. I think it is stupid, but it shut up the people who wanted me to add it.
That's why I added that "feature" under protest and only after many people requested it. I think it is stupid, but it shut up the people who wanted me to add it.
Crowther
Active member
That sounds like it could be the problem. I can't check from work. I wouldn't intentionally have set that. I've understood the concept of opportunity costs for over twenty years and I'm constantly trying to teach it to other on KoL (and failing just like Bale).
Sorry to sound like a confused noob. I have no baleUr settings at all. "grep baleUr settings/*" turns up empty. I don't think I've even seen the "GUI" for this script. It seems to me that maybe things defaulted the wrong way. I assume the property is "baleUr_UseInventoryInMallmode". I'll check what "get baleUr_UseInventoryInMallmode" returns when I can run mafia.