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Aenimus

Member
Hello,

So I decided I would spend my aftercore turns spading in-run monsters for their exact drop rates with perfectly fair coin and post all my data here.

I update the wiki as I go, but hopefully this thread will make it easier for any discoveries to make it to mafia.

EDIT: I've decided to just create new posts with different zones for clarity, and post them as they happen.
 
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Aenimus

Member
19/MAY/2019: All basement giants

Alphabet giant (correct on mafia and wiki)
heavy D 40%
original G 40%

Furry Giant (correct on mafia; wiki updated)
disturbing fanfic 25%
furry fur 35%
wolf mask 10%

Fitness Giant NEEDS UPDATING
giant gym membership card 10% (unknown on mafia)
giant jar of protein powder 15%
pec oil 25%
Squat-Thrust Magazine 10%
Fitspiration™ poster 15% (unknown on mafia)

Neckbeard Giant NEEDS UPDATING
O'RLY manual 15%
open sauce 25%
giant penguin keychain 10% (mafia thinks this is 15%)
giant neckbeard 15% (unknown on mafia)
 
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Aenimus

Member
19/MAY/2019: All ground floor giants

Foodie Giant NEEDS UPDATING
giant artisanal rice peeler 10%
giant heirloom grape tomato 15%
chipotle wasabi cilantro aioli 25%
artisanal hand-squeezed wheatgrass juice 15% (unknown on mafia)

Renaissance Giant NEEDS UPDATING
giant turkey leg 10%
Ye Olde Bawdy Limerick 25%
Ye Olde Meade 15% (mafia thinks this is 18.5?)
Ye Olde Medieval Insult 25%

Procrastination Giant (correct on mafia; wiki updated)
procrastination potion 25%

Possibility giant (already corrected)
chaos butterfly 20%
plot hole 15%
probability potion 25%
 
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Aenimus

Member
19/MAY/2019: All top floor giants

Steampunk Giant NEEDS UPDATING
brass gear 25% (mafia thinks this is 20%)
brown felt tophat 10% (mafia thinks this is 5%)
steampunk potion 15% (unknown on mafia)

Punk Rock Giant NEEDS UPDATING
giant safety pin 10% (mafia thinks this is 15%)
punk rock jacket 10%
stolen sushi 25%
punk patch 15% (unknown on mafia)

Raver Giant NEEDS UPDATING
Angry Farmer candy 20% (mafia thinks this is 25%(?))
giant needle 20%
Mick's IcyVapoHotness Rub 20%
rave whistle 5%

Goth giant (already corrected)
awful poetry journal 20%
thin black candle 25%
Warm Subject gift certificate 10%
giant tube of black lipstick 10%
 
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Lyft

New member
I spaded some monsters in Black Forest that did not have drop rates listed in the wiki (or mafia). I also double-checked some existing "known" drop rates.

Wiki pages have been updated.

black magic woman (Needs updating)
black eye shadow = 20% drop
black magic powder* (avatar potion) = 15% drop
little black book = 5% drop


black friar (Needs updating)
black label = 15% drop
mornington crescent roll = 15% drop
black friar's tonsure* (avatar potion) = 15% drop
black cloak = 5% drop


blackberry bush (Needs updating)
blackberry = 20% drop
blackberry = 20% drop
blackberry = 20% drop
 

Veracity

Developer
Are you done spading? Should we pin this as a thread for anybody to share monster drop spading?
I always like improving our monster database with such.
 

Lyft

New member
No, I'm not done spading. There's a few zones/monsters high on my list. It's just been hard to do since:
1) my account has been doing full time automated plumber runs
2) work has been extraordinarily busy due to current events (hence the automation)
 

Veracity

Developer
OK. I will make this thread Sticky and recommend that ALL people who are seriously spading meat or item drops from monster post here.
I will rename it to make that clear.
 
You can use the bakelite backpack + accordion bash to get the monster's meat drop trivially with almost no effort (for almost all monsters). If a wiki's data page has an Mval, it's almost surely right. The main page is often totally wrong, though.

I pegged the pewter torsohunter's pewter shavings drop at 5%.

PeKaJe has done a series of the elemental airport monsters on the wiki, it seems:

* SMOOCH private: 35% soda, 20% metal
* SMOOCH sergeant: 20% all metal
* SMOOCH general: 20% all metal

* Factory worker (female): 15% lunch, 5% pants, 5% gloves
* Factory overseer (female): 15% lunch
* Factory overseer (male): 15% thermos, 5% necktie
* Lava golem: 30% gooey, 30% sticky, 10% viscous

* Basaltamander: 15% tongue
* Lavatory: 15% lavawater
* Lava lamprey: 15% roe

* Healing crystal golem: 5% glowing new age

* Government scientist: 15% g-9
 

Veracity

Developer
Interesting. I wrote a little CLI command to look up the Data page for all monsters and compare to what we have. It needs tweaking; every request gets redirected, so it is double the Wiki server hits. But, here is what I got:

Code:
[color=green]> checkmeat[/color]

Monster 'actual orcish frat boy' (956) drops 0 but Wiki says 30
Monster 'alley catfish' (1600) drops 80 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'annoyed snake' (2098) drops 0 but Wiki says 25
Monster 'auteur elf' (898) drops 0 but Wiki says 20
Monster 'Big Wheelin' Twins' (1241) drops 0 but Wiki says 60
Monster 'black magic woman' (1576) drops 0 but Wiki says 100
Monster 'bog leech' (1345) drops 35 but Wiki says 30
Monster 'bogart' (1348) drops 30 but Wiki says 54
Monster 'booty crab' (634) drops 310 but Wiki says 300
Monster 'Bram the Stoker' (1559) drops 0 but Wiki says 250
Monster 'broctopus' (1571) drops 0 but Wiki says 100
Monster 'Bubblemint Twins' (1240) drops 0 but Wiki says 48
Monster 'bunch of drunken rats' (995) drops 0 but Wiki says 20
Monster 'bundle of Meat of Happiness' (1301) drops 0 but Wiki says 100
Monster 'canned goblin conspirator' (1283) drops 0 but Wiki says 20
Monster 'cigarette girl' (1617) drops 20 but Wiki says 25
Monster 'Cinco de Mayo reveler' (1943) drops 0 but Wiki says 100
Monster 'clan of cave bars' (1162) drops 400 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'cleanly pirate' (621) drops 60 but Wiki says 61
Monster 'cockroach' (2124) drops 0 but Wiki says 500
Monster 'cocktail shrimp' (1572) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'conjoined zmombie' (197) drops 200 but Wiki says 300
Monster 'craggy bartender' (1659) drops 0 but Wiki says 40
Monster 'Creepy Ginger Twin' (1243) drops 0 but Wiki says 45
Monster 'croqueteer' (929) drops 48 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'crusty pirate' (625) drops 64 but Wiki says 65
Monster 'cubist bull' (393) drops 200 but Wiki says 75
Monster 'desperate gold farmer' (1315) drops 0 but Wiki says 40
Monster 'dodecapede' (3) drops 0 but Wiki says 12
Monster 'drownedbeat' (1575) drops 0 but Wiki says 25
Monster 'drunken rat king' (996) drops 0 but Wiki says 40
Monster 'dweebie' (1355) drops 0 but Wiki says 40
Monster 'emaciated Knott Yeti' (219) drops 0 but Wiki says 75
Monster 'fabricator guài' (1308) drops 0 but Wiki says 20
Monster 'factory overseer (female)' (1791) drops 0 but Wiki says 150
Monster 'factory overseer (male)' (1790) drops 0 but Wiki says 150
Monster 'factory worker (female)' (1789) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'factory worker (male)' (1792) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'François Verte, Art Teacher' (1423) drops 0 but Wiki says 60
Monster 'freshwater bonefish' (1599) drops 60 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'frozen duck' (556) drops 150 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'gamblin' man' (1656) drops 150 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'gaudy pirate' (633) drops 110 but Wiki says 108
Monster 'Georgepaul, the Balldodger' (879) drops 0 but Wiki says 100
Monster 'ghastly organist' (403) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'giant crab' (2116) drops 0 but Wiki says 150
Monster 'giant giant crab' (2121) drops 0 but Wiki says 2000
Monster 'giant giant moth' (72) drops 0 but Wiki says 16
Monster 'giant isopod' (1597) drops 20 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'Gladiator' (1623) drops 0 but Wiki says 5
Monster 'Gnollish Bodybuilder' (13) drops 20 but Wiki says 21
Monster 'Gnollish Sorceress' (17) drops 24 but Wiki says 22
Monster 'goblin conspirator' (1281) drops 0 but Wiki says 20
Monster 'Gorgolok, the Infernal Seal (Inner Sanctum)' (21) drops 0 but Wiki says 35
Monster 'gourmet gourami' (1598) drops 40 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'government bureaucrat' (2095) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'grinning pork bun' (1305) drops 0 but Wiki says 30
Monster 'grumpy 7-Foot Dwarf' (1151) drops 40 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'grungy pirate' (616) drops 100 but Wiki says 98
Monster 'guy with a pitchfork, and his wife' (394) drops 100 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'hep cat' (1616) drops 20 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'herd of wild lemmings' (2100) drops 175 but Wiki says 150
Monster 'hulking bridge troll' (1668) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'jailbait orquette' (957) drops 0 but Wiki says 5
Monster 'Johnringo, the Netdragger' (880) drops 0 but Wiki says 100
Monster 'juvenile delinquent orquette' (958) drops 0 but Wiki says 10
Monster 'Knob Goblin Elite Guardsman' (79) drops 50 but Wiki says 52
Monster 'lobsterfrogman' (529) drops 78 but Wiki says 60
Monster 'Lumpy, the Sinister Sauceblob (Inner Sanctum)' (24) drops 0 but Wiki says 35
Monster 'mad wino' (1563) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'Madiator' (1625) drops 0 but Wiki says 15
Monster 'mariachi bandolero' (700) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'Medieval dung peddler' (1507) drops 0 but Wiki says 5
Monster 'Medieval leather mug salesman' (1505) drops 0 but Wiki says 25
Monster 'Medieval mug apprentice' (1509) drops 0 but Wiki says 5
Monster 'Medieval potter' (1506) drops 0 but Wiki says 25
Monster 'Medieval strawman debator' (1504) drops 0 but Wiki says 25
Monster 'Medieval stucco artisan' (1508) drops 0 but Wiki says 10
Monster 'menacing thug' (680) drops 0 but Wiki says 160
Monster 'Mer-kin alphabetizer' (850) drops 0 but Wiki says 80
Monster 'Mer-kin balldodger' (842) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'Mer-kin bladeswitcher' (844) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'Mer-kin juicer' (853) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'Mer-kin monitor' (852) drops 0 but Wiki says 80
Monster 'Mer-kin netdragger' (843) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'Mer-kin poseur' (849) drops 0 but Wiki says 100
Monster 'Mer-kin punisher' (839) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'Mer-kin researcher' (840) drops 0 but Wiki says 65
Monster 'Mer-kin rustler' (777) drops 0 but Wiki says 200
Monster 'Mer-kin teacher' (838) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'Mismatched Twins' (1242) drops 0 but Wiki says 52
Monster 'Mob Penguin Pasta Chef' (216) drops 0 but Wiki says 25
Monster 'Mob Penguin Smasher' (-46) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'Mob Penguin Smith' (-45) drops 0 but Wiki says 105
Monster 'Mob Penguin Soprano' (218) drops 0 but Wiki says 25
Monster 'Mob Penguin Supervisor' (-44) drops 0 but Wiki says 205
Monster 'Mob Penguin Thug' (217) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'modern zmobie' (1070) drops 0 but Wiki says 60
Monster 'motorhead' (1357) drops 0 but Wiki says 30
Monster 'Mrs. K, the Chemistry Teacher' (1424) drops 0 but Wiki says 60
Monster 'orcish frat wannaboy' (955) drops 0 but Wiki says 10
Monster 'orcish juvenile delinquent' (954) drops 0 but Wiki says 5
Monster 'outlaw behind an table' (1658) drops 0 but Wiki says 25
Monster 'outlaw leader' (1663) drops 0 but Wiki says 100
Monster 'pig' (1591) drops 0 but Wiki says 5
Monster 'piranhadon' (1601) drops 100 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'pygmy janitor' (1427) drops 75 but Wiki says 90
Monster 'rabid MMO addict' (1316) drops 0 but Wiki says 20
Monster 'Radiator' (1626) drops 0 but Wiki says 20
Monster 'Ringogeorge, the Bladeswitcher' (881) drops 0 but Wiki says 100
Monster 'roasted duck golem' (1303) drops 0 but Wiki says 30
Monster 'Ron "The Weasel" Copperhead' (1531) drops 225 but Wiki says 250
Monster 'sabre-toothed lime' (70) drops 14 but Wiki says 15
Monster 'Sadiator' (1624) drops 0 but Wiki says 10
Monster 'salaryninja' (1312) drops 0 but Wiki says 15
Monster 'sausage goblin' (2104) drops 0 but Wiki says 69
Monster 'scary pirate' (307) drops 45 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'sea cow' (775) drops 0 but Wiki says 300
Monster 'sea cowboy' (776) drops 0 but Wiki says 200
Monster 'sewer gator' (679) drops 0 but Wiki says 75
Monster 'shady pirate' (107) drops 28 but Wiki says 30
Monster 'skullbat' (45) drops 28 but Wiki says 31
Monster 'skullery maid' (377) drops 0 but Wiki says 5
Monster 'Sloppy Seconds Burger' (1566) drops 0 but Wiki says 250
Monster 'smut orc nailer' (1232) drops 30 but Wiki says 31
Monster 'smut orc pipelayer' (1231) drops 35 but Wiki says 36
Monster 'smut orc screwer' (1233) drops 35 but Wiki says 36
Monster 'Somerset Lopez, Dread Mariachi (Inner Sanctum)' (26) drops 0 but Wiki says 35
Monster 'son of a son of a sailor' (1574) drops 0 but Wiki says 75
Monster 'space beast' (1588) drops 200 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'Spaghetti Elemental (Inner Sanctum)' (23) drops 0 but Wiki says 35
Monster 'spider conspirator' (1280) drops 0 but Wiki says 15
Monster 'spider-goblin conspirator' (1285) drops 0 but Wiki says 25
Monster 'Spirit of New Wave (Inner Sanctum)' (25) drops 0 but Wiki says 35
Monster 'sporto' (1356) drops 0 but Wiki says 30
Monster 'Stella, the Turtle Poacher (Inner Sanctum)' (22) drops 0 but Wiki says 35
Monster 'Stephen Spookyraven' (1565) drops 0 but Wiki says 500
Monster 'stuffed moose head' (1552) drops 0 but Wiki says 100
Monster 'swamp beaver lumberjack' (1349) drops 25 but Wiki says 30
Monster 'swamp beaver warrior' (593) drops 25 but Wiki says 30
Monster 'swamp skunk' (1353) drops 35 but Wiki says 40
Monster 'taco fish' (1573) drops 0 but Wiki says 150
Monster 'terrible mutant' (2096) drops 0 but Wiki says 10
Monster 'tetched prospector' (1660) drops 0 but Wiki says 15
Monster 'The Beefhemoth' (1292) drops 0 but Wiki says 500
Monster 'the ghost of Phil Bunion' (1352) drops 35 but Wiki says 72
Monster 'the gunk' (1548) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'The Hermit' (-47) drops 0 but Wiki says 33
Monster 'The Mariachi With No Name' (706) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'tin can conspirator' (1282) drops 0 but Wiki says 10
Monster 'tin spider conspirator' (1284) drops 0 but Wiki says 20
Monster 'totally trashed orquette' (959) drops 0 but Wiki says 20
Monster 'tree loving hippy protestor' (2086) drops 0 but Wiki says 1
Monster 'triad code wizard' (1306) drops 0 but Wiki says 20
Monster 'Troll Twins' (1244) drops 0 but Wiki says 65
Monster 'turtle trapper' (685) drops 0 but Wiki says 102
Monster 'undead elbow macaroni' (147) drops 5 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'vampire clam' (75) drops 0 but Wiki says 18
Monster 'Vanya's Creature' (953) drops 1500 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'wacky pirate' (630) drops 80 but Wiki says 75
Monster 'wall of meat' (1706) drops 0 but Wiki says 200
Monster 'War Frat Elite 500th Captain' (500) drops 0 but Wiki says 250
Monster 'War Frat Streaker' (520) drops 300 but Wiki says 400
Monster 'warehouse clerk' (1742) drops 0 but Wiki says 75
Monster 'warehouse guard' (1740) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'warehouse janitor' (1741) drops 0 but Wiki says 30
Monster 'warty pirate' (632) drops 80 but Wiki says 85
Monster 'wastoid' (1354) drops 0 but Wiki says 20
Monster 'werecougar' (993) drops 45 but Wiki says 15
Monster 'white zombie' (308) drops 0 but Wiki says 30
Monster 'wild beaver' (2102) drops 175 but Wiki says 150
Monster 'wild girl' (1570) drops 0 but Wiki says 100
Monster 'wild moose' (2101) drops 175 but Wiki says 150
Monster 'wild reindeer' (2103) drops 175 but Wiki says 150
Monster 'wild walrus' (2099) drops 175 but Wiki says 150
Monster 'witty pirate' (629) drops 80 but Wiki says 85
Monster 'yakuza guard' (1311) drops 0 but Wiki says 30
Monster 'yakuza thug' (1317) drops 0 but Wiki says 24
Monster 'zmobie' (31) drops 36 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'Zombie Clown' (302) drops 0 but Wiki says 25
Monster 'Zombie eXtreme Snowboarding Orc' (310) drops 0 but Wiki says 40
Monster 'zombie frat boy' (305) drops 0 but Wiki says 30
Monster 'zombie Gnollish crossdresser' (301) drops 0 but Wiki says 22
Monster 'Zombie Knob Goblin Assistant Chef' (299) drops 0 but Wiki says 8
Monster 'Zombie N00b' (309) drops 0 but Wiki says 30
Monster 'Zombie Quiet Healer' (311) drops 0 but Wiki says 118
Monster 'zombie waltzers' (401) drops 100 but Wiki says 50
Monster Meat checked.
 
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Very interesting! Looks like there's more wrong than I thought, and also more consistency between Mafia and the wiki. A lot of these predate the backpack. The cubist bull, for example, is way out and should be easy to check.

Monster 'dirty thieving brigand' (475) drops 1000 but Wiki says 400
Monster 'infinite meat bug' (-96) drops 10000 but Wiki says 0

I spot-checked these and they seem to be consistent with Mafia. I can't see where "400" comes from.
 

Veracity

Developer
Revision 20013 adds the checkmeat command. The redirection was the Wiki sending from http: to https:, which was an easy fix.

I will adopt a lot of the Wiki's data, but will certainly sanity check it.
 
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Veracity

Developer
Monster 'dirty thieving brigand' (475) drops 1000 but Wiki says 400
Monster 'infinite meat bug' (-96) drops 10000 but Wiki says 0

I spot-checked these and they seem to be consistent with Mafia. I can't see where "400" comes from.
That was my bug: I was parsing the Meat gained from the Data page using a pattern which matched all decimal digits. Those two (and the filthworm queen) had large enough meat drop that it needed a comma. I fixed the regular expression and those are no longer errors. On the other hand, the new pattern doesn't match the frozen duck - for no reason I can discern.
 

Veracity

Developer
Given essentially all base meat drops are multiples of 5 (I do believe sausage golem is 69, because of what it is), I have the following observations:

I believe KoLmafia:

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Monster 'alley catfish' (1600) drops 80 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'Bubblemint Twins' (1240) drops 50 but Wiki says 48
Monster 'cleanly pirate' (621) drops 60 but Wiki says 61
Monster 'croqueteer' (929) drops 50 but Wiki says 48
Monster 'freshwater bonefish' (1599) drops 60 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'gaudy pirate' (633) drops 110 but Wiki says 108
Monster 'giant giant moth' (72) drops 15 but Wiki says 16
Monster 'giant isopod' (1597) drops 20 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'Gnollish Bodybuilder' (13) drops 20 but Wiki says 21
Monster 'gourmet gourami' (1598) drops 40 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'grungy pirate' (616) drops 100 but Wiki says 98
Monster 'hep cat' (1616) drops 20 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'Knob Goblin Elite Guardsman' (79) drops 50 but Wiki says 52
Monster 'Mismatched Twins' (1242) drops 50 but Wiki says 52
Monster 'piranhadon' (1601) drops 100 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'scary pirate' (307) drops 45 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'skullbat' (45) drops 30 but Wiki says 31
Monster 'smut orc nailer' (1232) drops 30 but Wiki says 31
Monster 'smut orc pipelayer' (1231) drops 35 but Wiki says 36
Monster 'smut orc screwer' (1233) drops 35 but Wiki says 36
Monster 'space beast' (1588) drops 200 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'turtle trapper' (685) drops 100 but Wiki says 102
Monster 'vampire clam' (75) drops 20 but Wiki says 18
Monster 'yakuza thug' (1317) drops 25 but Wiki says 24

Special cases:

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Monster 'bogart' (1348) drops 30 but Wiki says 54
Monster 'clan of cave bars' (1162) drops 400 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'Gnollish Sorceress' (17) drops 24 but Wiki says 22
Monster 'Professor Jacking' (939) drops 0 but Wiki says 536
Monster 'the ghost of Phil Bunion' (1352) drops 35 but Wiki says 72
Monster 'The Hermit' (-47) drops 0 but Wiki says 33
Clan has meat that varies by ML? What's the formula?
The others I will not spade.

Need spading:

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Monster 'cubist bull' (393) drops 200 but Wiki says 75
Monster 'dodecapede' (3) drops 10 but Wiki says 12
Monster 'drunken rat king' (996) drops 0 but Wiki says 40
Monster 'guy with a pitchfork, and his wife' (394) drops 100 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'zombie Gnollish crossdresser' (301) drops 0 but Wiki says 22
Monster 'Zombie Goth Giant' (312) drops 0 but Wiki says 182
Monster 'Zombie Knob Goblin Assistant Chef' (299) drops 0 but Wiki says 8
Monster 'Zombie Quiet Healer' (311) drops 115 but Wiki says 118
I believe the Zombies have the same Meat drop as the base monster. The Wiki's figures are dubious.

No reason to believe Wiki but unspadable:

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Monster 'Mob Penguin Smasher' (-46) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'Mob Penguin Smith' (-45) drops 0 but Wiki says 105
Monster 'Mob Penguin Supervisor' (-44) drops 0 but Wiki says 205
These are not in Manuel and not in the Fax network. So, where did those numbers come from?

Revision 20014 accepts the Wiki values for all the others.
 

Veracity

Developer
Revision 20015 adds PeKaJe's item drop spading. I was amused to see that our LavaCo items for male vs. female were wrong: we assumed that male or female overseers had the same drops and male or female factory workers had the same drop, but it turns out (on Wiki and my own testing today) that male factory workers and overseers have the same drops and female overseers and factory workers have the same drops. Makes sense; when you Break the Glass Ceiling, (some) male overseers become workers and (some) female workers become overseers.

I spaded a lot of Meat drops and confirmed that the Wiki was right about some things I had not believed before - and also confirmed that the Wiki was wrong about a lot of things too. Current findings:

The Wiki is incorrect (spaded):

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Monster 'Big Wheelin' Twins' (1241) drops 70 but Wiki says 60
Monster 'Bubblemint Twins' (1240) drops 64 but Wiki says 48
Monster 'cleanly pirate' (621) drops 60 but Wiki says 61
Monster 'creamy pirate' (622) drops 60 but Wiki says 61
Monster 'Creepy Ginger Twin' (1243) drops 55 but Wiki says 45
Monster 'croqueteer' (929) drops 50 but Wiki says 48
Monster 'Mismatched Twins' (1242) drops 60 but Wiki says 52
Monster 'skullbat' (45) drops 30 but Wiki says 31
Monster 'smut orc nailer' (1232) drops 30 but Wiki says 31
Monster 'smut orc pipelayer' (1231) drops 35 but Wiki says 36
Monster 'smut orc screwer' (1233) drops 35 but Wiki says 36
Monster 'The Hermit' (-47) drops 0 but Wiki says 33
Monster 'Troll Twins' (1244) drops 75 but Wiki says 65
Monster 'sabre-toothed lime' (70) drops 14 but Wiki says 15

The Wiki is incorrect (session logs but unspaded):

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Monster 'alley catfish' (1600) drops 80 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'freshwater bonefish' (1599) drops 60 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'giant isopod' (1597) drops 20 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'gourmet gourami' (1598) drops 40 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'piranhadon' (1601) drops 100 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'hep cat' (1616) drops 20 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'space beast' (1588) drops 200 but Wiki says 0

The Wiki is incorrect (deduction):

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Monster 'turtle trapper' (685) drops 100 but Wiki says 102
Monster 'yakuza thug' (1317) drops 25 but Wiki says 24
Monster 'Zombie Quiet Healer' (311) drops 115 but Wiki says 118

Either KoLmafia or the Wiki is incorrect (to be spaded eventually):

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Monster 'bogart' (1348) drops 30 but Wiki says 54
Monster 'giant giant moth' (72) drops 15 but Wiki says 16
Monster 'Gnollish Bodybuilder' (13) drops 20 but Wiki says 21
Monster 'Knob Goblin Elite Guardsman' (79) drops 50 but Wiki says 52
Monster 'scary pirate' (307) drops 45 but Wiki says 0
Monster 'the ghost of Phil Bunion' (1352) drops 35 but Wiki says 72
Monster 'vampire clam' (75) drops 20 but Wiki says 18

Special case: (Meat scales with ML)

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Monster 'clan of cave bars' (1162) drops 400 but Wiki says 0

Wiki may or may not be correct, but cannot or will not be spaded:

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Monster 'Mob Penguin Smasher' (-46) drops 0 but Wiki says 50
Monster 'Mob Penguin Smith' (-45) drops 0 but Wiki says 105
Monster 'Mob Penguin Supervisor' (-44) drops 0 but Wiki says 205
Monster 'Professor Jacking' (939) drops 0 but Wiki says 536
 
These are not in Manuel and not in the Fax network. So, where did those numbers come from?

Before the bakelite backpack, there were two (three-ish) ways of determining meat drops.

First, there was the Mer-kin hookspear. I recall, possibly incorrectly, that it gave either an integral value in the range 15 - 20% of the monster's base meat drop, floored. So if you managed to crit a bunch of times you could get the meat drop that way. It is 1-handed, so you could dual wield with a haiku katana, for example.

Second was the boring method: meat range is 0.8*Mval - 1.2*Mval, so you could work out what the range would be for a likely candidate then spade numbers until you confirmed it.

Third was the lazy method: meat range was triangularly distributed, so you could get a decent number of values and then just guess the Mval.
 

Veracity

Developer
Those were penguins from the Grim Grimacite Site in June 2006. They've not been seen since.
I'm impressed if they were spaded accurately. :)
 
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