Bug - Fixed Modifier maximizer wants to put one weapon in mainhand/offhand simulaneously
- Thread starter antimarty
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I can also sympathize with wanting to do things the best possible way
I get in trouble sometimes for spending too much time on things at work when they only need a quick hack though
except... the "best" way isn't really optimal in this case! (constants are larger than dataset, etc.) It's like how matrix multiplication in faster than ~n^2.8 is just not practical, ever.
edit: okay, it'd be optimal if the maximizer takes into account the effect of the fake hand (unlikely, IMO) and someone with a bunch of fake hands (probably a few thousand, at least) in inventory decides to run "maximize -weapon damage" or whatever. Then you'd want to consider an O
algorithm over an O(n^2) one.
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Sometimes the "best possible way" might save 5 seconds at execution time, but take an extra hour to implement. In my workplace, if we're only running that piece of code once per week, it would take my company 14 years to justify the extra hour I spent 
In roippi's case, when working with a small amount of data, I would suggest going with the most readable/easily maintained solution (Occam's razor and all that).
In roippi's case, when working with a small amount of data, I would suggest going with the most readable/easily maintained solution (Occam's razor and all that).
Fluxxdog
Active member
But it certainly doesn't hurt your motivation ^^
I hope you didn't use company time to work that out!it would take my company 14 years to justify the extra hour I spent
Theraze
Active member
Sometimes the "best possible way" might save 5 seconds at execution time, but take an extra hour to implement. In my workplace, if we're only running that piece of code once per week, it would take my company 14 years to justify the extra hour I spent
In roippi's case, when working with a small amount of data, I would suggest going with the most readable/easily maintained solution (Occam's razor and all that).
However, working out the best possible way might save you 3 hours of optimization in a later project...
It's the perpetual decision... how long do you keep working on something before it's a waste of time?Anyways, off-topic.
roippi
Developer
Hm, before I address this bug, looks like I need to fix another one:
Code:
[COLOR=olive]> equip[/COLOR]
Hat: Hodgman's porkpie hat
Weapon: scratch 'n' sniff sword
Off-hand: Glass Balls of the Goblin King
Shirt: sea salt scrubs
Pants: sugar shorts
Container: paperclip cape
Acc. 1: glacial clock
Acc. 2: (none)
Acc. 3: Oscus's pelt
Pet: Baby Bugged Bugbear (35 lbs)
Item: bugged balaclava
[COLOR=olive]> equip 2 glacial clock[/COLOR]
Taking off glacial clock...
Equipment changed.
Putting on glacial clock...
Equipment changed.
[COLOR=olive]> equip[/COLOR]
Hat: Hodgman's porkpie hat
Weapon: scratch 'n' sniff sword
Off-hand: Glass Balls of the Goblin King
Shirt: sea salt scrubs
Pants: sugar shorts
Container: paperclip cape
Acc. 1: (none)
Acc. 2: glacial clock
Acc. 3: Oscus's pelt
Pet: Baby Bugged Bugbear (35 lbs)
Item: bugged balaclava
I assume that is a bug because you had another glacial clock available and wanted a glacial clock in both acc1 and acc2.
If you only had one available - and it was in acc1 - you told it you wanted your glacial clock in slot acc2 and it obliged.
Or is there some other bug that your gCLI log doesn't show?
If you only had one available - and it was in acc1 - you told it you wanted your glacial clock in slot acc2 and it obliged.
Or is there some other bug that your gCLI log doesn't show?
roippi
Developer
Yep.
IronTetsubo
Member
Forgive my ignorance (and you can ignore this, I'm just trying to learn more about kolmafia), but what's the bug? Did you have 2 glacial clocks, and thus were expecting 2 to be equipped vs. the clock to be moved to the 2nd acc slot? My cursory reading of the code says it's doing what it's supposed to do, hence my question.
Edit: yup, ignore this... Should have hit refresh.
Edit: yup, ignore this...
Should have hit refresh.Problems when maximizer wants to put the same piece of equipment in main and offhands
and the equipment is in the closet
The same thing happens if you have, say, 2 bar whips and no gnawed-up dog bones. Mafia only takes one out of the closet, then sequentially puts it in the main hand and offhand. Presumably only if you can dual wield weapons? FWIW, old-school flying disk (an offhand item) is functionally equivalent to the gnawed-up dog bone; they both add 5 pounds. (Probably this is not relevant, but I figured I'd mention it just in case.)
and the equipment is in the closet
Code:
> maximize familiar weight -tie
Maximizing (1st time may take a while)...
3072 combinations checked, best score 68.00
Putting on crumpled felt fedora...
Equipment changed.
Removing items from closet...
You acquire an item: gnawed-up dog bone
Wielding gnawed-up dog bone...
Equipment changed.
Taking off gnawed-up dog bone...
Equipment changed.
Holding gnawed-up dog bone...
Why bother putting a weapon into your offhand if you don't have anything in your on-hand? "On-hand?" Whatever.
Unable to meet all requirements via equipment changes.
See the Modifier Maximizer for further suggestions.The same thing happens if you have, say, 2 bar whips and no gnawed-up dog bones. Mafia only takes one out of the closet, then sequentially puts it in the main hand and offhand. Presumably only if you can dual wield weapons? FWIW, old-school flying disk (an offhand item) is functionally equivalent to the gnawed-up dog bone; they both add 5 pounds. (Probably this is not relevant, but I figured I'd mention it just in case.)
xKiv
Active member
Maximizer fails (aborts) when it needs two of the same item, and has to pull(?) them
Here's what I did, for CLI:
Instead of pulling 2 hands that rock the ladles, only one was pullled - and trying to equip it in offhand took it from mainhand.
This used to work and, I guess, was probably "broken" (or, rather, exposed?) when "pull $number something" stopped being equivalent to "pull * something".
This might be two separate issues:
- maximizer should know how many of an item it will want, and acquire all of it (but I thought this was already fixed?)
- trying to equip a 1-handed weapon in offhand when the only source for that weapon is taking it from mainhand should probably stop even *before* the unequipping step. Somehow.
(ETA: r16122)
Here's what I did, for CLI:
Code:
> maximize mp
Maximizing (1st time may take a while)...
30962 combinations checked, best score 3,260.00, best since last = 3,260.00
67340 combinations checked, best score 3,260.00, best since last = 3,260.00
Pulling items from storage...
Putting on Hairpiece On Fire...
Equipment changed.
Pulling items from storage...
Wielding Hand that Rocks the Ladle...
Equipment changed.
Taking off Hand that Rocks the Ladle...
Equipment changed.
Holding Hand that Rocks the Ladle...
Why bother putting a weapon into your offhand if you don't have anything in your on-hand? "On-hand?" Whatever.
Unable to meet all requirements via equipment changes.
See the Modifier Maximizer for further suggestions.
> acquire 2 hand rock
Pulling items from storage...Instead of pulling 2 hands that rock the ladles, only one was pullled - and trying to equip it in offhand took it from mainhand.
This used to work and, I guess, was probably "broken" (or, rather, exposed?) when "pull $number something" stopped being equivalent to "pull * something".
This might be two separate issues:
- maximizer should know how many of an item it will want, and acquire all of it (but I thought this was already fixed?)
- trying to equip a 1-handed weapon in offhand when the only source for that weapon is taking it from mainhand should probably stop even *before* the unequipping step. Somehow.
(ETA: r16122)
wrldwzrd89
Member
Maximizer failure when creating two identical weapons
Basically, the bug goes something like this:
You ask maximizer to maximize (for example, Muscle as a Seal Clubber). It suggests creating / equipping 2 of the same weapon, since you have Double-Fisted Skull Smashing and can hold 2 1-handed weapons (say, a pair of Meat Tenderizers are Murder, since you have the ingredients on hand to make 2, your maximizer is set to suggest creating equipment if needed, and you do NOT have any on hand). It creates the 1st weapon and equips it. It then, for reasons I cannot fathom, tries to equip the weapon it just created in your off-hand slot instead of the main hand. This fails, since you can't hold a weapon in your off-hand without also having a main hand weapon; furthermore, the entire maximization execution gets aborted as well.
What SHOULD happen: Maximizer should go create BOTH weapons if it needs 2, then equip them.
Tested in KoLmafia r16228 (latest version as of this post).
Basically, the bug goes something like this:
You ask maximizer to maximize (for example, Muscle as a Seal Clubber). It suggests creating / equipping 2 of the same weapon, since you have Double-Fisted Skull Smashing and can hold 2 1-handed weapons (say, a pair of Meat Tenderizers are Murder, since you have the ingredients on hand to make 2, your maximizer is set to suggest creating equipment if needed, and you do NOT have any on hand). It creates the 1st weapon and equips it. It then, for reasons I cannot fathom, tries to equip the weapon it just created in your off-hand slot instead of the main hand. This fails, since you can't hold a weapon in your off-hand without also having a main hand weapon; furthermore, the entire maximization execution gets aborted as well.
What SHOULD happen: Maximizer should go create BOTH weapons if it needs 2, then equip them.
Tested in KoLmafia r16228 (latest version as of this post).
This phrasing is how you encourage people to care about the bug.
wrldwzrd89
Member
I suggest as a fix for this, to give the maximizer execution portion 2 phases: 1st, acquire any resources needed and perform any creation requested. 2nd, equipping / using items.