Why does "modtrace myst" and "modtrace mysticality" show different things?

ereinion

Member
Why does "modtrace myst" and "modtrace mysticality" show different things?

I was trying to figure out what myst-buffs I had earlier today, and thus did a "modtrace myst". I noticed that the effect from the G9 serum didn't show up, so after checking in the relay browser I tried running it again with no more luck. After trying a few other things, I did a "modtrace mysticality" instead, which did show the effect. Can any of you guys please explain what the difference between the two commands are? Below you can see what I got as the output from the two commands:

Code:
[COLOR=olive]> modtrace myst[/COLOR]

     [TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]           type[/TD]
[TD]           source
[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]           Mysticality Experience Percent[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]           Mysticality[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]           Mysticality Percent[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]           Mysticality Experience[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]           Familiar Tuning Mysticality[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]           Mysticality Limit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Sign[/TD]
[TD]           Wallaby[/TD]
[TD]           +10.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +10.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Item[/TD]
[TD]           Saucepanic[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +110.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +110.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Item[/TD]
[TD]           Saucepanic[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +2.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +2.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Item[/TD]
[TD]           Saucepanic[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +110.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +220.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Item[/TD]
[TD]           Saucepanic[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +2.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +4.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Item[/TD]
[TD]           Personal Ventilation Unit[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +100.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +100.00[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Adventurer's Best Friendship[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +50.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +270.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Aloysius' Antiphon of Aptitude[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +1.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +5.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           On the Trolley[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +100.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +370.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Pill Power[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +100.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +470.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Gr8tness[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +100.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +570.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Glittering Eyelashes[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +15.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +585.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Human-Humanoid Hybrid[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +10.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +595.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Stevedave's Shanty of Superiority[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +10.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +605.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Tomato Power[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +50.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +655.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Wry Smile[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +1.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +6.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Pasta Oneness[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +2.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +2.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Saucemastery[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +1.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +3.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           The Magical Mojomuscular Melody[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +10.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +13.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Merry Smithsness[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +55.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +710.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Class[/TD]
[TD]           EXP/2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +16.62[/TD]
[TD]           = +22.62[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
     
    
    
    [COLOR=olive]> modtrace mysticality[/COLOR]

     [TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]           type[/TD]
[TD]           source[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]           Mysticality Experience Percent[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]           Mysticality[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]           Mysticality Percent[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]           Mysticality Experience[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]           Familiar Tuning Mysticality[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]           Mysticality Limit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Sign[/TD]
[TD]           Wallaby[/TD]
[TD]           +10.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +10.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Item[/TD]
[TD]           Saucepanic[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +110.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +110.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Item[/TD]
[TD]           Saucepanic[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +2.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +2.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Item[/TD]
[TD]           Saucepanic[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +110.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +220.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Item[/TD]
[TD]           Saucepanic[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +2.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +4.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Item[/TD]
[TD]           Personal Ventilation Unit[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +100.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +100.00[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Adventurer's Best Friendship[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +50.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +270.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Aloysius' Antiphon of Aptitude[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +1.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +5.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           On the Trolley[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +100.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +370.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Pill Power[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +100.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +470.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Gr8tness[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +100.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +570.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Glittering Eyelashes[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +15.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +585.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Human-Humanoid Hybrid[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +10.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +595.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Stevedave's Shanty of Superiority[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +10.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +605.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Tomato Power[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +50.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +655.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Wry Smile[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +1.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +6.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Pasta Oneness[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +2.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +2.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Saucemastery[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +1.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +3.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           The Magical Mojomuscular Melody[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +10.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +13.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Experimental Effect G-9[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +337.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +992.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Effect[/TD]
[TD]           Merry Smithsness[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +55.00[/TD]
[TD]           = +1047.00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]           Class[/TD]
[TD]           EXP/2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]           +16.62[/TD]
[TD]           = +22.62[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 

Darzil

Developer
I don't think there is a difference between the two. I think that G9 did not show up as Mafia didn't know today's value, until you checked it in the relay browser, and that if you ran modtrace myst again it would have shown up. I could be wrong about that, but it's all I can think of.
 

Veracity

Developer
Staff member
That sounds correct. modifiers.txt says this:

Code:
Effect	Experimental Effect G-9	Muscle Percent: [pref(_g9Effect)], Mysticality Percent: [pref(_g9Effect)], Moxie Percent: [pref(_g9Effect)]
Notice the "_" settings in the expressions. Those are reset to 0 at rollovver and are only set to today's values when you look at the description. consequences.txt says this:

Code:
DESC_EFFECT	Experimental Effect G-9	\+(\d+)%	_g9Effect=$1
Yep.
 

ereinion

Member
Yep, that seems to be it. Tried using another g-9 today, and after having a look at the effect it was tracked correctly both when using "modtrace myst" and "modtrace mysticality".
 

lostcalpolydude

Developer
Staff member
I think a lot of people were just looking at the item after the change on KoL's end. You can actually do that instead of looking at the effect in 16447.
 
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