Bug - Waiting for Info pref "questF05Clancy" remains "unstarted" despite having started

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Lxndr

Member
I've started Clancy's quest and have done the Typical Tavern portion, and the Knob Shaft portion. But the preference states 'unstarted'.

It has been requested that I share what my quest log states:

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<p><b>The Minstrel Cycle</b><br> Clancy wants you to find <a class=nounder target=mainpane href=plains.php><b>The Luter's grave</b></a> and rob it.<p>
 
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PeKaJe

Member
The previous quest log for this seems to have been (judging by what's in questlog.txt) "Clancy would like you to find the grave of The Luter, so that he can retrieve the lute the Luter looted long ago. Your keen adventuring instincts tell you that the grave is probably near a graveyard." Presumably several of these have been updated with location links, and if I were to take a guess, it happened when the quest tracker was revamped.
 
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Lxndr

Member
Yeah, it looks like it might be location links. I'm about to start another Boris run in a few days, I can scrape the info. If that'd be helpful?
 
D

Darzil

Developer
Seems to be only set by quest logs for that quest, so would be handy.

If you also scraped the text from the actions that move them forward, we could also update the quests from that.

I wouldn't be surprised to find they'd added quest logs for actually finding the new Clancy abilities in addition
 
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Lxndr

Member
Clancy doesn't really do much new abilities. He starts with his sackbutt (hp/mp), then you can buy his crumhorn from the antique shop (stats), then his quest cycle gives you the lute (items). The lute is a part of the quest, the quest mostly gives Clancy extra levels.

It's a series of choice adventures, followed by superlikelies. Too bad Mafia can't detect when you run into the choice adventure. Instead of relying on the questlog, I mean.
 
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Darzil

Developer
It can :

If you also scraped the text from the actions that move them forward, we could also update the quests from that.
 
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Lxndr

Member
I hope this helps.. the start of Clancy's quest:

Clancy gestures excitedly toward your map, grunting softly in his excitement. "Excellent, mighty, handsome Boris! Sorry, I mean, Lxndr!" he begins.

"But I'm still excellent, mighty, and handsome, right?" you ask.

"In sooth, two out of three is not bad," Clancy says. "But dear, good, Lxndr, I see that on thy map now thou hast an alehouse! May we go there forthwith?"

"A wha?"

"An alehouse! A drinkery? A beershed? Great smorflauts, has the language changed so much?"

"Oh, you mean the Typical Tavern. Sure, we can go there. What's a smorflaut?"

"It is akin to a flachshrike, but with fewer numbles," Clancy says. "Verily it hath been an age since I was in a proper alehouse! There are always good new songs to be learned at a winesprit."
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to accept it, you click a button that says "Let Us Forthrightly Go Forthwith"

and after you accept it:

"Be there any buxom wenches at this boozebrary?" Clancy asks.
"Now you're just making words up," you say, and Clancy has the decency to blush.
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if it helps, this is choice adventure #571

the crucial part of the Quest Log after this says:

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<p><b>The Minstrel Cycle</b><br> Clancy wants to go to the <a class=nounder target=mainpane href=tavern.php><b>Typical Tavern</b></a>.<p
 
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Veracity

Veracity

Developer
Staff member
Yeah, yeah. ChoiceManager says:

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		// Choice 571 is Your Minstrel Vamps
		// Choice 572 is Your Minstrel Clamps
		// Choice 573 is Your Minstrel Stamps
		// Choice 574 is The Minstrel Cycle Begins
 
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Darzil

Developer
The way quest tracking happens is that started is when something first appears in the quest log. Then each time it changes, it goes to step1, step2, etc, until we finish, when it is set to finished.

In order to do it without checking quest log, we need to know what happens (drop or kill or loss or source text), at which url (or choice), etc - usually there are several to pick from, so we go with easiest.

I don't mind doing a run sometime to gather this, but no idea when it'll happen.
 
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Lxndr

Member
after this particular boris run, I'll be doing another. I'd be happy to gather any information, if i'm given instructions as to what to grab.
sounds like you already have the choice adventures that start things off, per Veracity's post.
 
D

Darzil

Developer
Lxndr said:
The quest log before this happens does not mention Clancy at all.
The quest log after I complete that also does not mention Clancy at all.
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Hmm, based on this, I suspect we should have the following :

Name : The Minstrel Cycle
started - Hitting button on choice 571 -> Clancy wants to go to the Typical Tavern
step1 - Encountering Jackin' the Jukebox in A Barroom Brawl -> (no quest entry, or maybe one in Finished tab)
step2 - Hitting button on choice 572 -> ???
step3 - Encountering A Miner Variation in Knob shaft -> (no quest entry, or maybe one in Finished tab)
step4 - Hitting button on choice 573 -> Clancy wants you to find The Luter's grave and rob it
step5 - obtaining Clancy's Lute in combat -> (no quest entry, or maybe one in Finished tab)
step6 - Hitting button on choice 576 -> ???
step7 - Encountering Mercury Rising in Icy Peak -> (no quest entry, or maybe one in Finished tab)
step8 - Hitting button on choice 577 -> ???
finished - Encountering Don't You Know Who I Am? in Middle Chamber -> You have taken Clancy on a whirlwind tour of the Kingdom, and he is now equipped with enough songs that his musical style will never be cramped again. (or new message)
 
Theraze

Theraze

Active member
Might be able to use items for the steps, if it really doesn't show up in Finished or Other. If you have the instrument, you must be at least at step X.
 
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Magus_Prime

Well-known member
Here's the information for steps two and three:

Your Minstrel Clamps:

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<body onkeyup="handleCombatHotkey(event,false);" onkeydown="handleCombatHotkey(event,true);" ><div id="page"><div id="mafiabuttons"><center><table width="95%"><tr><td align=left><div id="btnwrap"><input type="button" onClick="document.location.href='choice.php?action=auto';void(0);" value="auto" id="defaultButton"> <input type="button" onClick="document.location.href='choice.php?whichchoice=572&option=1&pwd=<hash removed>';void(0);" value="Go Down to the Old Mine"> </div></td></tr></table></center></div><div class='content' id='content_'><div id='effdiv' style='display: none;'></div><div>
<Center><centeR><table  width=95%  cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style="color: white;" align=center bgcolor=blue><b>Your Minstrel Clamps</b></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 5px; border: 1px solid blue;"><center><table><tr><td><center><img src="/images/adventureimages/justclancy.gif" width=100 height=100></center><p>Clancy catches a look at your map and clamps his trotter down tightly on your arm. "Brave, handsome, sexy Boris -- I mean, Arbos, does that say thou hast access to a mine? It looks to be so, but in the days of yore 'knob shaft' had a somewhat different meaning."<p>"It is indeed a mine, fair Clancy," you say, "but why does that excite you so?"<p>"Ah, forsooth, if we go there, I may anon learn a <i>miner</i> chord!" he says, chuckling.  "What think thee of my jest? Should the minstrel thing fall through, I had always dreamt of amusing with my jests."<p>"Keep dreaming, good Clancy," you say.<center><form style='margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px;' name=choiceform1 action=choice.php method=post><input type=hidden name=pwd value='<hash removed'><input type=hidden name=whichchoice value=572><input type=hidden name=option value=1><input  class=button type=submit value="→ Go Down to the Old Mine"></form><p></center></td></tr></table></center></td></tr><tr><td height=4></td></tr></table></center><script>top.charpane.location.href="charpane.php";</script>
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After clicking on the button for choiceAdventure572:

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<body onkeyup="handleCombatHotkey(event,false);" onkeydown="handleCombatHotkey(event,true);" ><div id="page"><div id="mafiabuttons"><center><table width="95%"><tr><td align=left><div id="btnwrap"><input type="button" onClick="document.location.href='adventure.php?snarfblat=259';void(0);" value="again" id="defaultButton"> </div></td><td align=right valign=top><select id="hotkeyViewer" onchange="updateCombatHotkey();"><option>- update hotkeys -</option><option>0: </option><option>1: </option><option>2: </option><option>3: </option><option>4: </option><option>5: </option><option>6: </option><option>7: </option><option>8: </option><option>9: </option></select></td></tr></table></center></div><div class='content' id='content_'><div id='effdiv' style='display: none;'></div><div>
<Center><div id="results"><table  width=95%  cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style="color: white;" align=center bgcolor=blue><b>Results:</b></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 5px; border: 1px solid blue;"><center><table><tr><td><span class='guts'>"Say," Clancy says, as you head toward the mine, "dost thou suppose the goblins who toil in that mine can drink in their local inebriatorium? Or do they not serve --"<p>"Good Clancy," you say, "Shut your face or I'll cut it off."<p>"See, thou'rt sounding more akin to Boris every passing minute!"<p></span></td></tr></table></center></td></tr><tr><td height=4></td></tr></table></div><table  width=95%  cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style="color: white;" align=center bgcolor=blue><b>Adventure Again:</b></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 5px; border: 1px solid blue;"><center><table><tr><td><center><p><a href="adventure.php?snarfblat=101">Go to the Knob Shaft</a><p><a href="adventure.php?snarfblat=259">Adventure Again (Cobb's Knob Harem)</a><p><a href="cobbsknob.php">Go back to Cobb's Knob</a></center></center></td></tr></table></center></td></tr><tr><td height=4></td></tr></table></center><script>top.charpane.location.href="charpane.php";</script>
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In the quest log:

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<centeR><table  width=95%  cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style="color: white;" align=center bgcolor=blue><b>Your Quest Log</b></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 5px; border: 1px solid blue;"><center><table><tr><td><Center>[current quests]   [<a href="questlog.php?which=2">completed quests</a>]   [<a href="questlog.php?which=3">other accomplishments</a>]   [<a href="questlog.php?which=4">notes</a>]   [<a href="questlog.php?which=5">hobo code binder</a>]   [<a href="questlog.php?which=6">Monster Manuel</a>]</center><p><center><b>Current Quests:</b></center><b>Council Quests:</b><blockquote><b>Ooh, I Think I Smell a Rat</b><br> Explore the cellar of the <a class=nounder target=mainpane href=tavern.php><b>Typical Tavern</b></a> and find the source of the rats.<p></blockquote><p><b>Other Quests:</b><blockquote><b>Lady Spookyraven's Necklace</b><br> Search the <a class=nounder target=mainpane href=place.php?whichplace=manor1><b>Haunted Kitchen</b></a> for the key to the Haunted Billiards Room.<p><b>The Minstrel Cycle</b><br> Clancy wants to go to the <a class=nounder target=mainpane href=cobbsknob.php><b>Knob Shaft</b></a>.<p></blockquote><p><p><center><a href="campground.php">Back to your Campsite</a></center></td></tr></table></center></td></tr><tr><td height=4></td></tr></table></center></body><script src="/onfocus.1.js"></script></html>

After hitting the non-combat in the Knob Shaft:

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<body onkeyup="handleCombatHotkey(event,false);" onkeydown="handleCombatHotkey(event,true);" ><div id="page"><div id="mafiabuttons"><center><table width="95%"><tr><td align=left><div id="btnwrap"><input type="button" onClick="document.location.href='adventure.php?snarfblat=101';void(0);" value="again" id="defaultButton"> </div></td><td align=right valign=top><select id="hotkeyViewer" onchange="updateCombatHotkey();"><option>- update hotkeys -</option><option>0: </option><option>1: </option><option>2: </option><option>3: </option><option>4: </option><option>5: </option><option>6: </option><option>7: </option><option>8: </option><option>9: </option></select></td></tr></table></center></div><div class='content' id='content_'><div id='effdiv' style='display: none;'></div><div>
<centeR><table  width=95%  cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style="color: white;" align=center bgcolor=blue><b>Adventure Results:</b></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 5px; border: 1px solid blue;"><center><table><tr><td><center><b>A Miner Variation</b><br><img src="/images/adventureimages/justclancy.gif" width=100 height=100></center><p><blockquote>Clancy stands stock-still in the middle of the Knob Shaft, his ears twirling back and forth as he takes in all the sounds. There's the <i>pop</i> of a pick hitting bubblewrap ore, the <i>squinch</i> of styrofoam, and the <i>clumpf</i> of cardboard. Mixed in are the songs of the miners themselves, songs handed down from generation to generation, most of which have "Ow, I put my stupid pickaxe through my foot again" as a refrain.<p>"Are you sufficiently inspired, good Clancy?" you ask.<p>"Indeed," says Clancy. "If I do not write more songs and entertain thee, thou mightst condemn me to actual physical labor, like these poor goblins. There is no more powerful motivator for an artist than the fear of a good day's work."<p>By the time you reach the light at the end of the Shaft, Clancy's humming some new tunes.
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<b>Clancy gains a level!</b></blockquote><p><Center><p><a href="adventure.php?snarfblat=101">Adventure Again (The Knob Shaft)</a><p><a href="cobbsknob.php?level=2">Go back to Cobb's Knob Laboratories</a></center></center></td></tr></table></center></td></tr><tr><td height=4></td></tr></table></centeR></div></div></div></body><script src="/onfocus.1.js"></script></html>

Quest log entry vanishes
 
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Magus_Prime

Well-known member
Here's the information for steps four and five:

Your Minstrel Stamps:

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<body onkeyup="handleCombatHotkey(event,false);" onkeydown="handleCombatHotkey(event,true);" ><div id="page"><div id="mafiabuttons"><center><table width="95%"><tr><td align=left><div id="btnwrap"><input type="button" onClick="document.location.href='choice.php?action=auto';void(0);" value="auto" id="defaultButton"> <input type="button" onClick="document.location.href='choice.php?whichchoice=573&option=1&pwd=<hash removed>';void(0);" value="Let's Go Save the Lute!"> </div></td></tr></table></center></div><div class='content' id='content_'><div id='effdiv' style='display: none;'></div><div>
<Center><centeR><table  width=95%  cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style="color: white;" align=center bgcolor=blue><b>Your Minstrel Stamps</b></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 5px; border: 1px solid blue;"><center><table><tr><td><center><img src="/images/adventureimages/justclancy.gif" width=100 height=100></center><p>Clancy begins to hum a tune, then stops and stamps his feet on the ground. "Ah, fair and wise and generous Boris . . . er, Arbos, I have a tune filling my head that would sound passing sweet on my lute!"<p>"Well, then, pull out your lute and let's hear it, good Clancy!"<p>"I cannot, Arbos, for my lute was stolen from me by a looting luter, lo these thousands of years ago."<p>"Bummer," you say, "maybe we could go to a pawn shop or something and get you a --"<p>"Gadzooks! A thought occurs to me. Mayhap the Luter -- who has surely been dead thousands of years -- took my lute with him to his grave! Mayhap it lies there still."<p>"Good Clancy, are you asking me to desecrate a grave for you?"<p>Clancy stops and twiddles his trotters. "Well, Boris was desecrating graves all the time, sometimes just for fun, so I figured --"<p>"Just messing with you, Clancy. Let's go reloot your lute from the luter!"<center><form style='margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px;' name=choiceform1 action=choice.php method=post><input type=hidden name=pwd value='<hash removed>'><input type=hidden name=whichchoice value=573><input type=hidden name=option value=1><input  class=button type=submit value="→ Let's Go Save the Lute!"></form><p></center></td></tr></table></center></td></tr><tr><td height=4></td></tr></table></center></div></div></div></body><script src="/onfocus.1.js"></script></html>

After clicking the button for choiceAdventure573:

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<body onkeyup="handleCombatHotkey(event,false);" onkeydown="handleCombatHotkey(event,true);" ><div id="page"><div id="mafiabuttons"><center><table width="95%"><tr><td align=left><div id="btnwrap"><input type="button" onClick="document.location.href='adventure.php?snarfblat=237';void(0);" value="again" id="defaultButton"> </div></td><td align=right valign=top><select id="hotkeyViewer" onchange="updateCombatHotkey();"><option>- update hotkeys -</option><option>0: </option><option>1: </option><option>2: </option><option>3: </option><option>4: </option><option>5: </option><option>6: </option><option>7: </option><option>8: </option><option>9: </option></select></td></tr></table></center></div><div class='content' id='content_'><div id='effdiv' style='display: none;'></div><div>
<Center><div id="results"><table  width=95%  cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style="color: white;" align=center bgcolor=blue><b>Results:</b></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 5px; border: 1px solid blue;"><center><table><tr><td><span class='guts'>"Verily, I can not wait to be reunited with my fat lute," Clancy says, "even though her strings have been sullied by another's touch."<p>"Don't worry," you say, "maybe he taught her a few new tricks."<p></span></td></tr></table></center></td></tr><tr><td height=4></td></tr></table></div><table  width=95%  cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style="color: white;" align=center bgcolor=blue><b>Adventure Again:</b></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 5px; border: 1px solid blue;"><center><table><tr><td><center><p><a href="place.php?whichplace=plains&action=lutersgrave">Go to the Luter's Grave</a><p><a href="adventure.php?snarfblat=237">Adventure Again (The Dark Elbow of the Woods)</a><p><a href="friars.php">Go back to The Copse of the Deep Fat Friars</a></center></center></td></tr></table></center></td></tr><tr><td height=4></td></tr></table></center><script>top.charpane.location.href="charpane.php";</script>
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Quest Log:

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<body>
<centeR><table  width=95%  cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style="color: white;" align=center bgcolor=blue><b>Your Quest Log</b></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 5px; border: 1px solid blue;"><center><table><tr><td><Center>[current quests]   [<a href="questlog.php?which=2">completed quests</a>]   [<a href="questlog.php?which=3">other accomplishments</a>]   [<a href="questlog.php?which=4">notes</a>]   [<a href="questlog.php?which=5">hobo code binder</a>]   [<a href="questlog.php?which=6">Monster Manuel</a>]</center><p><center><b>Current Quests:</b></center><b>Council Quests:</b><blockquote><b>Ooh, I Think I Smell a Rat</b><br> Explore the cellar of the <a class=nounder target=mainpane href=tavern.php><b>Typical Tavern</b></a> and find the source of the rats.<p><b>Cyrptic Emanations</b><br> Get rid of the evil in <b><a class=nounder target=mainpane href="crypt.php">The Cyrpt</a></b>.<p><b><a class=nounder target=mainpane href="inv_use.php?whichitem=4964&pwd=0e419a6d1faa770dc687b9751b90fc70">Evilometer:</a> 200</b><p></blockquote><p><b>Other Quests:</b><blockquote><b>Lady Spookyraven's Necklace</b><br> Search the <a class=nounder target=mainpane href=place.php?whichplace=manor1><b>Haunted Kitchen</b></a> for the key to the Haunted Billiards Room.<p><b>The Minstrel Cycle</b><br> Clancy wants you to find <a class=nounder target=mainpane href=plains.php><b>The Luter's grave</b></a> and rob it.<p></blockquote><p><p><center><a href="campground.php">Back to your Campsite</a></center></td></tr></table></center></td></tr><tr><td height=4></td></tr></table></center></body><script src="/onfocus.1.js"></script></html>

Quest Log entry vanishes
 
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