Bug Maximizer confusion concerning weapons in slots

fronobulax

Developer
Staff member
Not sure this is a bug and definitely not sure how to reproduce it, but reporting since there have been some discussion and changes concerning weapons and slots.

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According to the relay browser, at the instant this update was requested the character had a Knob Goblin Scimitar in the main hand and the Hammer of Smiting in the off hand.
 

Darzil

Developer
That's a strange one. I can't reproduce it at high level with the best mainhand stat booster in my offhand, then maximising the stat, on an item I have only one of. Maximizer shouldn't be suggesting using two of something when you only have one. I knows you haven't got two, if you had it'd just say equip, not remove and equip. Did you have no other item that'd give +mainstat? Maybe it's trying to move your best weapon to mainhand, and not finding anything better than nothing, and mistakenly treating that as leave the currently equipped weapon? That'd be a bug. Can you run the debug version and see what it is being considered for offhand?
 

fronobulax

Developer
Staff member
I'm having trouble reproducing but I have to ask what you mean by "debug version"? If I turn the Debug Log, maximize, and then Off I see nothing from the maximizer. "dump mainstat" is an invalid option in the Maximizer. "mainstat dump" once gave me some gCLI output that looked like slots and choices but every time I have tried since (including after a complete logout) I get nothing. Perhaps dump is not working as expected?

PS - I just tried "mainstat dump 2" which I infer from the help and did not work and "mainstat dump2" which at least was not an error.

I'm probably missing something obvious but...
 

Darzil

Developer
You want something like maximize? mainstat 2 dump.

Always confusing me too, the 2 is a weighting for the dump keyword, the same way as you can weight other things by putting a number in front of them eg 2 Meat, Item to weight Meat twice as much as Item.
 

fronobulax

Developer
Staff member
The operator error was I was trying to do everything in the GUI. Entering "maximize? mainstat 2 dump" in the gCLI gave me much more interesting results. If/when I can reproduce it I will post. Thanks.
 

fronobulax

Developer
Staff member
> maximize? mainstat 2 dump

Maximizing...
SLOT 0
[ravioli hat (135), disco mask (135), seal-skull helmet (135), mariachi hat (135), Hollandaise helmet (135), bugbear beanie (135), coconut shell (135), eyepatch (135), pail (135), chef's hat (135), filthy knitted dread sack (135), clown wig (135), lihc face (135), miner's helmet (135), eXtreme scarf (135), safarrri hat (135), helmet turtle (136), Orcish baseball cap (138), Knob Goblin elite helm (138), Baron von Ratsworth's tophat (140), fuzzy busby (146)]
[fuzzy busby, Baron von Ratsworth's tophat]
SLOT 1
[toy accordion (135), spooky stick (135), rusty grave robbing shovel (135), Knob Goblin elite polearm (135), 7-Foot Dwarven mattock (135), pool cue (135), bone flute (135)]
[bone flute]
SLOT 2
[Spanish fly trap (135), stuffed stinky gravy fairy (135), stuffed hand turkey (135), stuffed snowy owl (135), stuffed undead elbow macaroni (135), stuffed Meat (135), stuffed treasure chest (135), stuffed key (135), stuffed Baron von Ratsworth (135), stuffed tin of caviar (135), Victor, the Insult Comic Hellhound Puppet (135), hot plate (135), loadstone (135), 3-ball (135), 4-ball (135), 6-ball (135)]
[6-ball]
SLOT 3
[(none) (135)]
[(none)]
SLOT 4
[astral shirt (144)]
[astral shirt]
SLOT 5
[old sweatpants (135), bugbear bungguard (135), bloody clown pants (135), stylish swimsuit (135), filthy corduroys (135), Knob Goblin elite pants (135), ninja hot pants (135), miner's pants (135), swashbuckling pants (135), snowboarder pants (135), Knob Goblin pants (136), Orcish cargo shorts (138)]
[Orcish cargo shorts]
SLOT 6
[giant designer sunglasses (135), hemp string (135), acid-squirting flower (135), continuum transfunctioner (135), giant pinky ring (135), Lord Spookyraven's spectacles (135), vampire collar (135), stuffed mink (135), time halo (135), freshwater pearl necklace (135), Pine-Fresh air freshener (135), stuffed shoulder parrot (135), observational glasses (135), eXtreme mittens (135), big red clown nose (135), imp unity ring (135), infernal insoles (135), arrrgyle socks (135), ghost of a necklace (135), garish pinky ring (135), Boss Bat bling (138), shiny ring (138), badass belt (140), pirate fledges (142)]
[pirate fledges, badass belt, shiny ring, Boss Bat bling, garish pinky ring]
SLOT 7
[seal-clubbing club (135), turtle totem (135), pasta spoon (135), saucepan (135), asparagus knife (135), Knob Goblin tongs (135), skeleton bone (135), little paper umbrella (135), corn holder (135), diamond-studded cane (135), homoerotic frat-paddle (135), filthy pestle (135), spiked femur (135), huge spoon (135), hilarious comedy prop (135), Knob Goblin scimitar (136), Hammer of Smiting (151)]
[Hammer of Smiting, Knob Goblin scimitar]
SLOT 8
[disco ball (135), dented harmonica (135), knob bugle (135), double-barreled sling (135), magic whistle (135)]
[magic whistle]
SLOT 9
[(none) (135)]
[(none)]
SLOT 10
[(none) (135)]
[(none)]
SLOT 11
[(none) (135)]
[(none)]
SLOT 12
[]
[]
SLOT 13
[seal-clubbing club (135), turtle totem (135), pasta spoon (135), disco ball (135), asparagus knife (135), dented harmonica (135), Knob Goblin tongs (135), skeleton bone (135), little paper umbrella (135), saucepan (135), corn holder (135), diamond-studded cane (135), knob bugle (135), homoerotic frat-paddle (135), filthy pestle (135), double-barreled sling (135), magic whistle (135), spiked femur (135), huge spoon (135), hilarious comedy prop (135), Knob Goblin scimitar (136), Hammer of Smiting (151)]
[Hammer of Smiting, Knob Goblin scimitar]
SLOT 14
[(none) (135)]
[(none)]
SLOT 15
[(none) (135)]
[(none)]
SLOT 16
[(none) (135)]
[(none)]
SLOT 17
[(none) (135)]
[(none)]
SLOT 18
[(none) (135)]
[(none)]
SLOT 19
[(none) (135)]
[(none)]
SLOT 20
[(none) (135)]
[(none)]
285 combinations checked, best score 205.00

I tried mainstat in the GUI with the scimitar in the main hand and the Hammer off hand. Saw remove and equip hammer followed by keep hammer (as in the screen shot) and then ran the command with results shown above. Thanks.

PS does "[Hammer of Smiting, Knob Goblin scimitar]" suggests that maximizer thinks the hammer is main and scimitar is offhand? If so then every other way I have to display them switches where they are.
 
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Darzil

Developer
PS does "[Hammer of Smiting, Knob Goblin scimitar]" suggests that maximizer thinks the hammer is main and scimitar is offhand? If so then every other way I have to display them switches where they are.
No, these are the items going through to evaluator, and in slot 7 means the current melee offhand and the best other melee offhand, and in slot 13 means the current 1 handed melee weapon and the best other 1 handed melee weapon.
 
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