New Content - Implemented Familiars of the Year
- Thread starter Darzil
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r13610.
mulberry + boxed wine gives:
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7119 mulled berry wine 922856680 coffeecup.gif drink t,d 57
mulled berry wine 5 7 awesome 0 0 0 0
mulled berry wine Effect: "Sweet Nostalgia", Effect Duration: 30
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1510 Sweet Nostalgia calendar.gif ad2380f472379aff4801da2dd9d1d30f drink 1 mulled berry wine
Sweet Nostalgia Candy Drop: +20
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Ye Olde Medievale Villagee has a semirare: Clay Is Great, But Leather Is Bether
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7119 mulled berry wine 922856680 coffeecup.gif drink t,d 57
mulled berry wine 5 7 awesome 0 0 0 0
mulled berry wine Effect: "Sweet Nostalgia", Effect Duration: 30
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1510 Sweet Nostalgia calendar.gif ad2380f472379aff4801da2dd9d1d30f drink 1 mulled berry wine
Sweet Nostalgia Candy Drop: +20
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Ye Olde Medievale Villagee has a semirare: Clay Is Great, But Leather Is Bether
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Using a crappy camera in combat (against a copyable monster) gives:
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7176 shaking crappy camera 708139348 camera.gif usable q 0
# shaking crappy camera
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This appears to work like the 4-d camera, in that you can only use the shaking crappy camera once a day. You can use both the shaking 4-d and shaking crappy cameras in a day. Also, I got this message in the log:
Round 1: yendor uses the crappy camera!
Round 2: alien hamsterpus photographed for Yearbook Club
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7176 shaking crappy camera 708139348 camera.gif usable q 0
# shaking crappy camera
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This appears to work like the 4-d camera, in that you can only use the shaking crappy camera once a day. You can use both the shaking 4-d and shaking crappy cameras in a day. Also, I got this message in the log:
Round 1: yendor uses the crappy camera!
Round 2: alien hamsterpus photographed for Yearbook Club
Feel free to change that stuff (thread labels).
Also, it seems that opening up a new mask removes clay and other ingredients from your inventory.
I tend to assume things have been done for a reason.
r13672. I think the Rumpelstiltskin zone is done now, other than adding new messages for rescuing kids if the wiki isn't complete and thus some aren't parsed. I guess it's possible once all the messages for parents are known it may be possible to write detailed spoilers with chance of success for each offering, and the gain from it.
Bale
Minion
Spoilers for Rumpelstiltskin would be nice. It's been pretty much spaded on the forum.
Looking through the portal will display 3 messages. Two for one parent and the third is for the other. Document with all messages here. The tricky part is that a message like, "cutting a huge piece of cake to eat alone" could be either Greed or Gluttony. It does not indicate both so there is a 50/50 chance of each. Other messages like "studying a treasure map" indicate only one sin so that is definite.
It would be nice if when you talk to Father/Mother/Both there was a spoiler indicating the chance of each sin being the correct answer. It's obvious for Father/Mother, but trickier for Both. The trick is that for talking to both parents, the sins are calculated separately from the individual parents. To explain how it works for Both parents it is helpful to have an example:
Father's Sins: Greed (100%), Gluttony (50%), Vanity(50%) -- Father is definitely Greedy, but he is also either Gluttonous or Vain.
Mother's Sins: Greed (50%), Vanity (50%) -- Only one sin is valid
Both: Greed (50%), Vanity (33%), Gluttony (17%) -- Only one sin is valid
For both parents, the chance of a sin appearing is the number of times each sin is named divided by total number of sins.
It is possible for the Father to be Greedy and Gluttonous, the Mother to be Greedy, but when talking to Both together the correct answer can be Vanity.
Looking through the portal will display 3 messages. Two for one parent and the third is for the other. Document with all messages here. The tricky part is that a message like, "cutting a huge piece of cake to eat alone" could be either Greed or Gluttony. It does not indicate both so there is a 50/50 chance of each. Other messages like "studying a treasure map" indicate only one sin so that is definite.
It would be nice if when you talk to Father/Mother/Both there was a spoiler indicating the chance of each sin being the correct answer. It's obvious for Father/Mother, but trickier for Both. The trick is that for talking to both parents, the sins are calculated separately from the individual parents. To explain how it works for Both parents it is helpful to have an example:
| Parent | Messages | Indicated Sins |
|---|---|---|
| Father | writing a contract to make a high-interest loan | Greed & Greed |
| Father | checking his reflection in a spoon | Gluttony & Vanity |
| Mother | shining a golden chalice to a reflective finish | Greed & Vanity |
Father's Sins: Greed (100%), Gluttony (50%), Vanity(50%) -- Father is definitely Greedy, but he is also either Gluttonous or Vain.
Mother's Sins: Greed (50%), Vanity (50%) -- Only one sin is valid
Both: Greed (50%), Vanity (33%), Gluttony (17%) -- Only one sin is valid
For both parents, the chance of a sin appearing is the number of times each sin is named divided by total number of sins.
It is possible for the Father to be Greedy and Gluttonous, the Mother to be Greedy, but when talking to Both together the correct answer can be Vanity.
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Bale
Minion
Surprising, but here's the discussion of that point.
Crowther
Active member
Yeah, that's a bit odd. I believe it's even possible for both parents to accept a sin individually, but for them not to accept it together. People are such hypocrites!
Bale, has the both parent percents been spaded? I've heard a hypothesis different from yours, but I believe yours is most likely correct. Some have said that Greed would be no more likely than Gluttony for both parents in your example. I don't have enough stats to compute that, but KoL usually takes the path of least coding resistance and eliminating dups requires more code.
When parsing these you have to worry about gender differences. But it's entirely "his" vs "her", so it isn't too rough.
BTW, check out today's leader board. I figured I'd better get my spinning wheel before everyone figures it out.