Feature - Implemented maximize: limit combinations checked

Bale · Dec 26, 2013

I remember the suggestion appearing elsewhere, but cannot find the thread right now. When I have stats of 200+ and can equip all my gear, the maximizations get ridiculously long.

What about a keyword to limit it such as "maxcombo 500000" so I can limit the amount of time spent to half a million combinations? Or perhaps simply "quick" which will stop checking 500k combinations after the last time it found a better score? I like that last one best since it will stop reasonably soon after the maximize gets to a reasonably good choice.

I know that hitting escape will stop the checking and show me the current best choice, but I like to put it in a script and not wonder if it will take ages just to chose an outfit. It reminds me of a high school girl getting ready for a big date. I shouldn't have to check in on the script and hit escape in the middle of it, so that it can move to the next step in a reasonable period of time.

How long does maximization take? Here are a few examples. Adding the "quick" keyword would have been a good thing...

Code:

> maximize meat
Maximizing...
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> maximize item
Maximizing...
49677 combinations checked, best score 358.00
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> maximize .25 meat, .75 item
Maximizing...
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Winterbay · Dec 26, 2013

I support this request. It would make farm run so much faster for those with lots of combinatory items seeing as that script does 2-4 maximizations times the amount of familiars you have that affect meat or item drops...

lostcalpolydude · Dec 26, 2013

I found that using -offhand when maximizing speeds things up a lot, though that requires knowing what offhand you want to wear already. As far as I could tell when looking at the code a little bit, that count of combinations checked is only used in the offhand-checking stuff, perhaps because it was clear when the code was written that offhands (combined with other variable things) would be the slowest to calculate.

Darzil · Dec 26, 2013

I think it's just that offhands are calculated last if that's the case, The code is a little odd, as it looks like a number of functions, but they call each other in sequence rather than being called from a loop in a central function. The count is updated at the end, and checked. I probably will try to do this sometime soon if no one else does. There are no so many relevant high level items that things do run rather slowly. (Though I have hit 14m+ combinations before Dread was added)

xKiv · Dec 26, 2013

Darzil said:
I think it's just that offhands are calculated last if that's the case, The code is a little odd, as it looks like a number of functions, but they call each other in sequence rather than being called from a loop in a central function. The count is updated at the end, and checked. I probably will try to do this sometime soon if no one else does. There are no so many relevant high level items that things do run rather slowly. (Though I have hit 14m+ combinations before Dread was added)

I think you got it right - looks to me functionally equivalent to something like

Code:

for each outfit
 for each familiar item
  for each back item
   for each back item
    for each combination of accessories
     for each hat
      for each shirt
       for each pants
        for each mainhand
         for each offhand {
           calculate score, best score so far, best equipment so far; update counter; ...
         }

except all the various checks for what's possible (and all the code to make sure that all possible equipment combinations are checked, and no impossible combinations are checked) are quite complicated.

Darzil · Dec 29, 2013

r13452 - Adds maximizerCombinationLimit. If not 0 (which is default), maximize will stop at that value with a message indicating why it has stopped and that it is not optimal.

Bale · Dec 29, 2013

You added a preference instead of a keyword? May I ask about the reason for that? It's two extra steps when I want to limit maximization. I need to set the preference to 1,000,000 run the maximization string and then set it back to 0.

lostcalpolydude · Dec 30, 2013

Bale said:
and then set it back to 0.

Is that really necessary? I feel like anyone with slow enough hardware (probably the majority of people) to be interested in this would not be interested in changing it back to get slow results again. For most people, this will be something that gets set once and then never thought about again, which won't work if it's a flag that has to be specified every time.

I'm going to look into adding the value to the GUI somewhere when I have a chance.

Theraze · Dec 30, 2013

Agreed... if you want to limit things, limit them and never think about them again. If you don't want to limit them, don't. Either/or.

Bale · Dec 30, 2013

After some consideration I've decided that might actually be the correct solution. I'm limited maximizer combinations to 2 million because I just don't want to ever have to deal with it taking more than that. Now I don't have to think about it each time I type a maximizer string.

fronobulax · Dec 30, 2013

I will make comments but I don't expect them to be compelling enough to consider a change.

First I play on multiple computers with the KoL directories synchronized via Dropbox. They are not all of equal capability and some are slow enough that I would limit the mazimizer on them but others are fast enough that it doesn't make a difference.

Second, sometimes I have to complete all of my KoL activities within a certain amount of wall clock time. In those cases I make some setting or play style changes in order to accomplish my goals. Even on a fast machine I may choose to limit the maximizer for that session only. (That said, I think SmartStasis is much more of a contributor to wall clock time consumed than the maximizer).

Darzil · Dec 30, 2013

Hmm, maybe have the preference AND a limit to include in a maximiser string, with the second taking precedence ?
And/or optionally allow the limit to be expressed in seconds rather than combinations ?

Fluxxdog · Dec 30, 2013

fronobulax said:
First I play on multiple computers with the KoL directories synchronized via Dropbox. They are not all of equal capability and some are slow enough that I would limit the mazimizer on them but others are fast enough that it doesn't make a difference.

I can't remember which, but I remember someone saying either mafia was not designed to be portable or mafia was designed to not be portable.

fronobulax · Dec 30, 2013

Fluxxdog said:
I can't remember which, but I remember someone saying either mafia was not designed to be portable or mafia was designed to not be portable.

I'd be interested in what else you remember since the only issue I have noticed is that some of the screen size and location parameters are not expressed in a portable form - i.e. windows have different initial locations and sizes on different graphics cards - but otherwise, by design or otherwise, it seems quite portable.

Fluxxdog · Dec 31, 2013

Found it. It wasn't designed to be portable according to Veracity. The linked discussion basically involves installing scripts and settings to a relative directory vs. an absolute directory.\ on different OSs. OSes? Whatever ^^

fronobulax · Dec 31, 2013

Nuanced definitions of portable. I'm synchronizing and running on multiple computers using Dropbox and flash drives so yes it is portable. However I am very careful how I set up things to do that and the expertise necessary to do that is beyond that of a novice so "not designed to be portable". I have played mafia from my flash drive on a Linux box but never tried it on a Mac so the discussion may be framed by which OS is included as well. Thanks.

Fluxxdog · Jan 1, 2014

Well, it just got me thinking what if it was designed to be more portable. Have an option to enable it to not install everything to an arbitrary folder but use the folder the jar is in. Just thoughts.

Winterbay · Jan 1, 2014

Fluxxdog said:
Well, it just got me thinking what if it was designed to be more portable. Have an option to enable it to not install everything to an arbitrary folder but use the folder the jar is in. Just thoughts.

You mean just as it does on Windows? Or am I misunderstanding something?

Fluxxdog · Jan 1, 2014

I'm saying just as it should for a portable application. I have a flash with Eclipse and Notepad++ that saves settings and whatnot to the flash drive rather than any location on the computer I use it on. The only problem I have running mafia off of it is on the Macs at the school or a Linux box, it goes elsewhere, like ~/.kolmafia IIRC. Also, logging causes it to slow down immensely because it's constantly writing to the drive.

fronobulax got me thinking of it. The setting for limitations usually becomes an issue because of a computer's speed. When trying to use the limitation on different computers, you'll have different preferences. So for some machines, there are different settings you'd want to use. If there was a way to make it easier to specify settings based on machine, that would go quite a way for frono. Tying it to a MAC address would be reasonable enough.

The problem with doing that is mafia isn't designed to be portable. It needs to read those settings from a specific directory and a flash on a Mac or Linux will never read it from the one you want without specific command line arguments. You can wrap them in a .sh script or the equivalent for Macs (Veracity, as I'm not as versed in Macs, what is the equivalent to a Windows .bat or a Linux .sh script for a Mac?) for easy access, but then each person is going to go looking for that solution each and every time.

Perhaps what might be a better solution is for mafia to look in it's current directory for settings first rather than default to check another directory that a person would have to hunt for on a different machine. Start up mafia, it looks for .\settings\GLOBAL_prefs.txt first, then goes elsewhere to check, then set up that elsewhere if nothing was found.

lostcalpolydude · Jan 1, 2014

It's weird how fronobulax's comments about how he wants to use different settings for different computers was sidetracked with discussion about using the same settings on all computers.

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